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Post by Ringo on Mar 7, 2005 22:33:02 GMT -5
Hmmm...when did Brooke and Daisy get married...?
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Post by Lady Catharine on Mar 8, 2005 8:17:53 GMT -5
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Post by Kayenne on Mar 8, 2005 19:54:44 GMT -5
Hmmm...when did Brooke and Daisy get married...? Very good question, I missed that little detail.
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Post by DunedainRanger on Mar 8, 2005 21:35:21 GMT -5
They're not married? I thought they were. That's not a very responsible thing to do, having a child out of wedlock. But then again I guess it doesn't matter. Married or not, when the parents break up it's always hardest on the children. Still, that's a shameful situation.
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Post by Ringo on Mar 8, 2005 22:24:10 GMT -5
"...a tangled web of lies..."
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Post by Kayenne on Mar 9, 2005 20:34:24 GMT -5
"...a tangled web of lies..." Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Post by Brook on Mar 10, 2005 9:21:15 GMT -5
You people amaze me in your ability to be petty and childish.
No Daisy and I are not married. We have been together for nearly six years and don't believe we need a piece of paper to tell us what we already know. We often refer to each other as husband and wife. But that is really none of your buisness is it?
Say what you will about me professionally, but don't you dare attack my family.
Either grow up or shut up!
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Brook
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Post by Hephzibah on Mar 10, 2005 9:34:50 GMT -5
I didn't understand the Brook-Daisy-Disneyland thread but now that I know it is his significant other that is being talked about that is sooooooo not right.
Really if we pick on him let it be proffessionally.
Whole hardly agree Black Knight
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Post by Kayenne on Mar 10, 2005 21:29:40 GMT -5
For the record, my agreement with the "web of lies" comment had nothing to do with anybody's personal life. And the Disney comments were in reference to the previous subject of this thread, they just happen to be on the same page.
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Post by Hephzibah on Mar 10, 2005 22:12:09 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying this up Jasmine
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Post by Hephzibah on Mar 10, 2005 23:50:56 GMT -5
Also Ringo thanks for being a GENTELMAN in your pm's to me. Danka
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Post by DunedainRanger on Mar 10, 2005 23:56:28 GMT -5
It wasn't my intention to be childish or petty. I just wrote what I believe. I guess that personal or religious or moral beliefs aren't politically correct. But that doesn't mean much, does it?
Look - I have been attending this Faire for quite some time. I got to see it grow from a tiny little ring to expand to the New World, and then to the new Chess Stage. I saw the cast go from ten to twenty to eighty.
I saw people like Sean and Jim as the Burlaps grow into the finest street performers I have seen at just about any Ren Fest, and I saw more cast who remained year after year after year, investing themselves and their time in this faire.
When I posted my little rant about Brook and Richard being idiots, I meant it. But I didn't hear word one from either of them saying "shut up and grow up". I said these things because I saw something that I love being torn into two, and it doesn't matter whether or not it is kept behind the scenes or not. It managed to reach me without the aid of Richard, Sean, Jim, Lisa, Pete, Christy, or any of the others who were 'deposed' by recents events.
So obviously, there are more leaks in your precious little regime than you think, and the bad news has spilled out to those people who watched as this Faire went from dull brown to sparkling gold. And all this threatens to do is make it a sad and unhappy place for me. I don't care about what anyone else feels - because MY feelings are the only ones that matter to me. I don't want to understand the politics, I don't care to. I want to see those things that made this faire great stay. And every year I see them fall away like leaves from a dying tree.
So did I say something that offended someone? I glad I got your attention. I calculated how much money I have spent at the GLMF in the 9 years I have attended, between admission tickets, beer, food, clothing, weapons, mugs, dishes, silverware, belts, pouches, etc. And I underestimated - I have spent over $15,000 in the last 9 years at GLMF. So should you be considering MY feelings and opinions?
You damn well should! And if you don't then you obviously don't care about me, and if you don't care about one patron, then you probably don't care about a lot of them.
Now you're listening to me - listen to them, too.
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Post by Sir Trevor on Mar 11, 2005 0:08:39 GMT -5
There is a lot to agree with in your post.
As for leaks, it hasn't been much of a secret of what happened. And it is all around a lot of renfest circles. A lot was aired on the official board before Larry had the plug pulled on that.
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Post by Loxzley on Mar 11, 2005 0:48:04 GMT -5
So did I say something that offended someone? I glad I got your attention. I calculated how much money I have spent at the GLMF in the 9 years I have attended, between admission tickets, beer, food, clothing, weapons, mugs, dishes, silverware, belts, pouches, etc. And I underestimated - I have spent over $15,000 in the last 9 years at GLMF. So should you be considering MY feelings and opinions? You damn well should! And if you don't then you obviously don't care about me, and if you don't care about one patron, then you probably don't care about a lot of them. Now you're listening to me - listen to them, too. <TEAR> So sad. I almost got worked up for ya there. I think its a little pathetic that you attcked someone to get a stir. Takes alot to drag me out of my lurking mode but you are pathetic enough to have done it. So you have spent some money. So have I. You have attended the faire. So have I. You have watched the faire grow. I have bled to make it so. For everything you think you have a right to you dont. I dont work for the "The Powers that be anymore" and i dont have much of a invested intrested anymore, but before you jump on him like he is a some nobody who has only done bad to the faire, think again. He has given everything he has in making that place grow. He has sacraficed more then any off us would be willing too. I guess it its easy to attack someone when you have your coputer to hide behind. Grow up. GEt a Life, and stop crying . Sorry Trevor. Feel free to delete this. I will understand. SHANE CANTRELL
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Post by Tom Burlap on Mar 11, 2005 5:39:32 GMT -5
I have made the choice to remain quiet through most of what has transpired, and kept almost all of my personal events to myself, but I guess I feel the need to comment on a few things. Most likely to my regret.
Shane: I have considered you a friend for many years, and respect you for what you have done, and experienced, but when you comment that you don't have much invested interest in the faire anymore you are not being completely truthfull. Sarah is your Fiance and she is connected, therefore you are connected. You are also a good friend to Brook, and feel the need to defend him that is also a connection. I understand this and forgive the tone of your posts, but I must question if attacking other people is the best solution to this situation?
Second: You say that "He (Brook) has given everything he has in making that place grow. He has sacraficed more then any off us would be willing too."
I would say this. Brook is not the only one. There have been many people who have given much, blood sweat tears and more. This faire is not about one person, it is about many great people who have come together as individuals and made something more than the sum of its parts. The "magic" is not the product of one person, but the result of many people in harmony.
For example: I have worked the faire for 11 years. Most of that time I never made a dime for my performance, it was enought to be part of a great thing. I gave all my free time, for 4-5 months each year, and still worked full time plus in the real world. I have given up sleep, vacations, time with my family and friends, and much else for the love I have for this faire.
My reward for all this was to be pushed out.
And I am not alone here.
Brook has sacrificed more than any of us is willing to?
I am not so sure. All I asked him to do was find a way for us to get past this event, and make the faire a better place for everyone, and I was willing to make that sacrifice.
His response was that I could have a season pass and perform when I felt like it, but the faire was not interested in anything more from me.
Does this sound like someone who is willing to sacrifice?
*Sigh*
Here is my advice to the faire staff:
1) An argument takes 2 people, if you do not partisipate there will be not argument. If what you see angers you, leave it alone and it will die of lonliness.
2) If all other faires only post basic info on their website, and do not talk to their patrons, then I say post and leave it at that. The only way to win an argument is not to have one (See statement #1)
3) If the faire staff feels that the best way to prove their worth is to have people wait and see what the faire is like in '05, then wait for the start of the faire season and let us see. Stop stirring the pot, and use this energy to make a better show. People will respond to quality no matter how resistant that are here and now.
4) This is not the GLMF message board. All people have to right to speak their minds, and voice opinions as long as they stay in line with Trevors guildlines. Welcome to America where freedom of speech is a right. As the professionals here I would think that you should hold yourself above the petty insults and share what information best suits the needs of the faire, and do your best to put the faires best foot forward. I think I always did that when remarking to posts when I was one fo the PTB's. Just a thought.
5) This one I will share with you all because it came from a dear friend and wise man.
"When it stops being fun, walk away."
There will be other places and other times. Hope is something that no person can take from you, and the small amounts of joy in your life should be held precious, and dear. You are the master of your happyness, let no other person take it from you.
Sean Seaber
Aka Tom Burlap Aka Former Assistant Entertainment Director GLMF Aka 11 year cast member of the GLMF
And someone who has walked away...until the fun comes back.
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