Trustee Meeting Roll Call

[Lady Catharine]

The state treasurer's office would BE INTERESTED in this.

[sue]

I've said it before and I'll say again there is more corruption in that little township than in all of Ashtabula County. Seems to be a close second to Cuyahoga County. I'll tell ya if I were Tamburino I'd be sweating bullets that someone whi lives in the township would call the state to investigate the dealings he's approved along with the Clay.
If theae two get voted out (are you listening God?) I wonder how much of their hard earned money they'd be willing to spend to keep this litigation going on. Also how much distance would other people in office want between them and Tamburino and Clay if there was a state investigation?
Unfortunatly I will not be able to go to the meetings since Bill has gone back to regular duty at work and his schedule is now 11 a.m. till 7:30 p.m. by the time we would be able to get there the meeting would be over. Please know we will be there with you in spirit and anxiously waiting for news here as to how the meetings go.

[Sir Trevor]

So, what date is the next meeting?

[bunbun / Hank]

I think they meet the second and forth Thursday's so the next one would be:

9-10-2009 and 9-24-2009. HANK.

[Jezzy MacPeaks]

I won't be able to attend the next meetings, but I was at the last one, and while I was proud of those who stood their ground against Tamburrino and the trustees, the unfortunate thing was that in many cases when our people made statements and Tamburrino asked where they had read this info or where had they gotten their info, they had to admit that they didn't have that specific information to back it up. Of course, that meant the trustees didn't take any of it seriously and they just brushed it all off. Please, if you're going to fight these people, don't just bring the bullets, make sure you have the guns to back them up with! Otherwise, it's as if we're just throwing them and have no force to make the point and make it stick!

I would say if you say you read it in the papers, have a copy with you, etc. It is good to demand a copy of the minutes from the previous meetings, as well. I hope Daisy and Brett got the ones they had asked for at the last meeting.
It was good that Daisy called the trustees on the fact that her name and many other names of "Faire people", who had spoken at the first meeting were not included in the list they read off. So her point that if names were omitted from the minutes, what other items had been omitted as well was a valid one. Way to go! I'm actually surprised that there had been any minutes taken at the original meeting, anyway, as I never saw the secretary write a single word that night! Maybe they had a tape recorder that didn't pick up the voices of just the faire people. And, I wonder what ever became of the sign-in list that they signed.

And, one more thing before I go...I got the rules for the vendors here at ORF, and the Harveysburg Township does also require a Transient Vendor's License, but the fee is only $25, and only the business owner is required to apply for it, NOT the employees, as well! Just thought you'd be interested to know this.

[Sir Trevor]

Very good point.
If you bring something up, you need to have facts to back it up as well.

Which reminds me.
Has anyone had any responses to public information requests yet?

[haggis7]

Not from the township, there were more requests, both written and verbal at tonights meeting, we'll see if they get any results. Only two trustees at this meeting and one refused to talk about the transient vendor issue and one would but neither could ,or would, give give a concrete opinion on the matter.Even when asked if a township resident needed to apply for the registration could a firm yes or no answer be given. STAY TUNED

[Sir Trevor]

Are they still saying that people should ask the county prosecutor?

I don't think I have found an email address for him yet.

[ravenson]

Thank you all for keeping us up to date with what is going on. We need to make sure that we do not let this fade away and forget about it.

Jeff

[Jezzy MacPeaks]

I plan to stay tuned for further results as I fully intend to BE at GLMF next year! Best of luck to you, Russ, in the upcoming election! Not just for the sake of the faire, but so the Township will be run more responsibly and fairly. You're a great guy and they'll be fortunate to have you on their side, as are we!

[haggis7]

The county prosecutor has basically said don't call us, we don't answer your questions, the trustees must answer your questions. The trustees can ask the prosecutors' office questions they cannot answer, because they don't know the answer, the prosecutor gives them the answer and THEY( the trustees) have to answer to the people.
Also, according to the Ohio Sunshine laws, a request for public records does NOT have to be submitted in writing, it may be done verbally, either in person or by phone, in writng, or by E-mail but the trustees cannot demand a certain form of request.

[Sir Trevor]

So, let me get this straight.
The trustees tell people to ask the prosecutor.
The county prosecutor says they don't answer the public's questions.
All questions should be directed to the trustees, and if the trustees don't know, they should contact the prosecutor for clarification. Then answer the question.

Is that about the jist of it?

If so, is there any way to get it in writing from the prosecutor that all questions should go through the trustees?
If so.
Then if someone asks about the legality of the transient vendor law.
And the trustees say to ask the prosecutor.
Then they could be presented with a copy of the statement from the prosecutor.

Sounds like a plan, if anyone can get something in writing from the prosecutor.

[haggis7]

Thanks for the kind words and vote of confidence Jezzy, I believe it's going to be quite a fight.

[Sir Trevor]

Sept 8, 2009 16:35:41 GMT -5 Jezzy MacPeaks said:

And, one more thing before I go...I got the rules for the vendors here at ORF, and the Harveysburg Township does also require a Transient Vendor's License, but the fee is only $25, and only the business owner is required to apply for it, NOT the employees, as well! Just thought you'd be interested to know this.

Is that license issued by Harveysburg Township, or is that just requireing that all vendors have an OHIO transient vendors license?
Because if I remember correctly the cost of that was $25.
And all the vendors already knew they had to have that to report their income and pay their taxes.

[mamawench]

John and i couldn't come to the last meeting. We will try to make the next. I hope the people of Trumbull will realize what ineffective people they voted into office.