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Oct 4, 2006 17:52:26 GMT -5
Post by bunbun / Hank on Oct 4, 2006 17:52:26 GMT -5
Tempest...I've met you a number of times and I've NEVER ONCE suggusted you should become a lawyer. Good God girl, do something USEFUL with your life. God knows, we have more then enough useless lawyers in this country. That is why we have all these frivolus lawsuits. There is just not enough "REAL" work for all of them. And while English, history, philosophy, and those other things you mentioned will be of great help to you over the course of your life, a study of Zombies, while amusing, is not going to help much with getting a job in the real world. And that is what a lot of college courses seem to be these days. Mindless drivel! HANK.
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Oct 4, 2006 19:23:50 GMT -5
Post by Tempest on Oct 4, 2006 19:23:50 GMT -5
Ah, see there's the difference - if I decided to be a lawyer, I'd be one like my dad and my aunts and uncles and grandpa - I'd be the useful kind! They're all local lawyers that work on getting justice for normal working people. When people walk in to my dad's firm with the idea to sue some restaurant because they spilled hot coffee on themselves my dad first tells them that he'd rather quit the profession than help them get a cent for their own stupidity, then he tries to make sure they don't go to any other lawyer to file the same suit. My family's always been in the Canonsburg area, doing wills and property lines and divorces and custody cases and things like that, making sure that people who work for a living aren't tricked out of their money by assholes with way too much time on their hands. They do a lot of good, so if I ever ended up in law, I think I'd much prefer that kind - the kind of lawyers that people actually need to be able to trust.
As for the zombie classes, I was making the point that at my liberal arts college, we don't have ridiculous classes like that - those classes were offered by big state schools just to fill credits, pad GPAs, and allow the people that have been there for 6 years already to FINALLY graduate. My classes actually make sense!
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Oct 4, 2006 20:48:07 GMT -5
Post by Sir Trevor on Oct 4, 2006 20:48:07 GMT -5
And while English, history, philosophy, and those other things you mentioned will be of great help to you over the course of your life, a study of Zombies, while amusing, is not going to help much with getting a job in the real world. And that is what a lot of college courses seem to be these days. Mindless drivel! HANK. Now see, here is where I disagree with you Hank. I don't think college is something you do just to get a job. College is supposed to be something you do to get an education and expand your horizons. Sure, a good education can help you land a better job. But going to college shouldn't be all about a way to earn more cash. That is the problem with a lot of the 'college educated' idiots. The went and got the education but never learned anything about real life and common sense. They could have used a few courses on zombies or other things, just to teach them that there is more to it than what the numbers on their computer screen tells them.
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Oct 4, 2006 21:06:44 GMT -5
Post by Tempest on Oct 4, 2006 21:06:44 GMT -5
Aye - Huzzah Trevor! I agree wholeheartedly. My friends and I at least are trying to apply our education to actual life. We're organizing student movements, going to wildlife preserves to study carnivorous plants, and even heading to the symphony or the pub on weekends to enhance our "musical palettes," shall we say. We're trying to figure out why this stuff is important and we spend a lot of time talking to each other about how our fields overlap and enhance each other (we've got three bio/chem majors in my quad, a history, a computer science, and an english major - so the fields are pretty diverse).
I'm hoping that when I graduate from here, I can at least prove Turk wrong when he claims that college gives you a degree at the cost of any common sense or grip on reality you might have possessed. I admit freely that my reality has always been a bit WARPED, but I still think I'm getting the most out of the education I'm paying so much for.
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Oct 5, 2006 9:16:01 GMT -5
Post by SwordSchoolGroupie on Oct 5, 2006 9:16:01 GMT -5
Kent State is just so left wing - liberal and such that one of my professors actually said he thought all us students should be rolling around campus due to how well-rounded we are.... as for the actual major I took - I didn't learn a whole lot and I feel pretty useless to society.
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Oct 5, 2006 17:39:22 GMT -5
Post by Tempest on Oct 5, 2006 17:39:22 GMT -5
Sorry - did you at least enjoy it? Literature's my thing and even in some of my worst classes as long as there's something good to read, I'm into it.
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Oct 5, 2006 22:20:24 GMT -5
Post by bunbun / Hank on Oct 5, 2006 22:20:24 GMT -5
Trevor...I guess I will just have to disagree with you disagreeing with me. (reply 17) Since it takes an astronomical amount of loot to spend four years in college, (even the "cheap" state funded ones) your primary purpose better be to get a good job cuz you will be paying off student loans for the rest of your life otherwise.
While learning about Zombies and such can be fun, I think you should pursue those "studies" on your own time and not have an actual accredited class for it. I think Tempest hit the nail on the head when she said the schools did that to bring the GPA up and give the football players some classes they could actually pass so they would be eligible to play.
You ever hear most football players do a TV commericial? Four years of college, and they sound like a retard. Maybe they've just been tackled too many times. I don"t know. HANK.
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Oct 5, 2006 22:40:58 GMT -5
Post by bunbun / Hank on Oct 5, 2006 22:40:58 GMT -5
Tempest...You stated that you hope to get the most out of the education you are paying so dearly for, and that your classes actually make sense. That is because you are going to a JESUIT school, and from what little I know about them they are a pretty no nonsense bunch. So if you apply yourself, as we all know you can do, you will probably walk out of there a hell of a lot smarter then when you went in. Which is not something I can say for a lot of folks I know who went to college. They went in dumb and came out dumber. Course I think their major was Beer Drinking 101, and they say alcohol kills brain cells, so that might have had something to do with it. HANK.
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Oct 6, 2006 1:32:37 GMT -5
Post by Tempest on Oct 6, 2006 1:32:37 GMT -5
The Jesuits do push us and require of us more than just attention and tuition, so you're going to get SOME learning crammed down your ungrateful throat whether you like it or not. But all in all, Jesuit's a small college, and if you don't want to learn and be a part of a community of service, both you and the university normally come to the mutual conclusion that you should leave. As far as me becoming smarter than when I entered - I should say so! I've been taking the entrance exams for grad school, medical school, and law school on the weekends just for fun! It only takes about 4 and a half hours on a Saturday morning, but you get an INCREDIBLE ego boost from it (I got a higher LSAT score than my DAD did!) With all the humbleness I can muster, I must say, I kick ass. haha Ahh, the simple joys in life...
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Oct 6, 2006 9:22:39 GMT -5
Post by tomnaboley on Oct 6, 2006 9:22:39 GMT -5
As Tempest says....The same goes for my son's college. He attends Ashland University which is also a small school. They also have an understanding about learning and being a part of the school community. If you can't accept learning and being a part of the school family you will be asked to leave.
As for the "Zombie" classes...I agree they may be a filler course to make your credits, but, if my son chose one of those classes, he would be out of Ashland with my foot up his ass. I am not waisting my money on it. Don't get me wrong, an "easy" class can help with the strain/pressure of college, but make it sewing 101 or swimming 101 or cooking 101. Something that may be used when they graduate. (I know these may be hard classes, they are just an example.)
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Oct 6, 2006 9:30:25 GMT -5
Post by Sir Trevor on Oct 6, 2006 9:30:25 GMT -5
And who says a zombie class couldn't be useful? Never know, might end up in the movie industry making zombie movies.
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Oct 6, 2006 11:26:01 GMT -5
Post by Tempest on Oct 6, 2006 11:26:01 GMT -5
All I'm saying is, when the fullscale zombie invasion comes, I will be prepared. I've read the book, stockpiled the necessities, and identified the elite few who will be asked to join me in my bunker, to help me kill the zombies , survive the chaos, and repopulate the post-apocalyptic earth.
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Oct 6, 2006 12:42:32 GMT -5
Post by CelticWench on Oct 6, 2006 12:42:32 GMT -5
I my liberal arts education. I went to a small private college (and had a full-tuition scholarship to boot, but that doesn't make my education any less valuable). There was no zombie survival class, but I DID take a class called "Science in Science Fiction", taught during our 6-week spring term, where we talked about the science behind time-space continuums, cloning, space travel.....pretty neat. Yeah, it was a bit "fluffy"....but we got to watch Twelve Monkeys and T2. It also filled part of the science requirement (I took a basic bio class for the rest of the science credits, it bored me to tears). No matter WHAT you learn in college, the price can be ridiculous.
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Oct 26, 2006 17:44:01 GMT -5
Post by Tempest on Oct 26, 2006 17:44:01 GMT -5
I had THE BEST LESSON EVER in 18th Century British Lit today. It was on Swift's "A Modest Proposal" ... which ... is ... WONDERFUL! I wish I could start EVERY day off with a two hour talk about the merits of eating babies! Seriously, if you haven't ever read it - do it. It's only a few pages long, and it's the best piece of satire that I've studied so far. And I think we can all agree that his idea to end poverty and hunger by having the irish peasants feed their babies to the rich is completely reasonable. *glee* Mmm, delicious baby.
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